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  1. Hi,

    And thank you! Thank you so much for eight great weeks of Dharma talks – each one full of interest, humour, and clear-sightedness. Thank you so much.

    And thank you too for providing the notes after each one. It’s been great to be able to re-read and re-consider all the points you raised in the talks, and have the opportunity to follow up links and references. Thank you!

    Sādhu, Sādhu, Sādhu!

    Marcus

    PS – ‘Buddha-nature’ as an imperialistic term! Yes, I guess, LOL, but it’s just a word (the finger not the moon) and a good one for Buddhists to use. Though there are many others: One Mind, Juingong, Hanmaum – and that’s just from the school I took refuge in. Personally I like the term ‘Buddha-nature’, it helps me keep things in focus.

  2. Yes – I also think this teaching is important. It is enlightenment, and not just a mental state of bliss. It is temporary though. It lies way past thoughts and emotions.
    There is a tnedency to champion ideas and feelings by those who still have not gianed a whiff of what lies beyond them.
    The Pali word is ‘cetovimutti’ where ‘ceto’ means the heart/mind as opposed to the things/qualities of the mind. Vimutti is ‘liberation’ or ‘deliverence’. It has the same meaning as the Indian/Sanskrit term Vimokka (moksha).
    As Marcus points out in his appraisal , in the Lotus Sutra a father promises his sons a goat cart, deer cart and ox cart in order to get them to leave a buring house. In truth none of the carts exist, but something much more magnificent is gained instead.
    So ‘bliss’ or ‘enlightenment’ is promised, but the experience of it is beyond the thoughts and emotions that usually define experience.

  3. At the last talk, although it was not emphasized, I was struck by the phrase “liberation of the heart” in connection with “the refuge of disenchantment”. The heart, of course, always brings to mind the emotions, which more than any other property of human consciousness enslaves us…and the idea of finding a place(state of mind) free from their grip is a fascinating one. Many people, even those interested in Budhhist thought & practice here in Bkk argue that to deny emotions is to deny life. Can there be a clarification of this issue? Is metta emotional? Which suttas address this “liberation of the heart”? Thank you…with sincere appreciation for another series of mind-bending talks!